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Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: What form of rapid transit should Winnipeg implement?

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    Look, let's cut the crap ! Subway !!!!
    Warm in the winter , cool in the summer.
    Thankful People: conceitedjerk, Northlands
    • CommentAuthorEdWin
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2008 edited
     
    "And for those who just can't make up your mind about bus versus rail there is this:

    It's a Bus. It's a Train. It's Both!

    http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/05/half-bus-half-t.html

    Although the video (and sound track) don't really sell me on the idea."

    There were some students from the UofM (engineering students,I believe), that wanted to approach Katz with a rapid transit study plan they had conducted in school with the use of this type of technology, but apparently Katz wouldn't take them seriously.

    This just goes to show you how closed-minded this city can be, and really is.
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    None, till winnipeg figures out its sprawl issue.
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      CommentAuthorOmega
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    BRT will fail miserably if chosen. It's a half-way cop out.

    Subways are not right for the task. Winnipeg doesn't need a subway. The only destination dense enough to warrant a subway is downtown itself. That's one stop. Winnipeg needs an LRT that is agile and capable of making multiple stops, running at a high frequency and that can run 24/7.

    Subways are massively overkill for the problem at hand.
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    None!! Fix the roads and then have computers set the timing for traffic to drive, without coming to a red light at the next set of lights! That will improve the drive through time , and Winnipeger's will actually think that they have rapid transport, but for free!
    That is the perfect answer, FREE!!
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    whats a moped cost now adays? $1000?

    Lets give everyone a moped for free
    • CommentAuthorEdWin
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: rosencrentz</cite>None!! Fix the roads and then have computers set the timing for traffic to drive, without coming to a red light at the next set of lights! That will improve the drive through time , and Winnipeger's will actually think that they have rapid transport, but for free!
    That is the perfect answer, FREE!!</blockquote>

    No. Winnipeg deserves better than that cheap solution.
    Thankful People: pizzaman
    • CommentAuthorHooj
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: rosencrentz</cite>None!! Fix the roads and then have computers set the timing for traffic to drive, without coming to a red light at the next set of lights! That will improve the drive through time , and Winnipeger's will actually think that they have rapid transport, but for free!
    That is the perfect answer, FREE!!</blockquote>
    What if/when gas prices reach $2.25 in two years? This is what one analyst was tossing around as a possible scenario. Then driving might really be rapid because there would be at least 20% less cars on the streets.

    since when has repairing the infrastructure been for free? Fixing the roads would be very good instead of half assed bandaid patching, but it would take lots of money.
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      CommentAuthorfabiocdn
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    quote whats a moped cost now adays? $1000?

    Lets give everyone a moped for free unquote

    You mean "snowped"

    How will you get around the remaining 10 (7) months of the year?
    Make Main St. become a winter race track for snowmobiles like Beausejour?
    • CommentAuthorrosencrentz
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008 edited
     
    J2F , GOP, and I will pick you up!! We have very little to do!!

    GOM, yes, U.S.A. political party, NO!!
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    GOP? Have you changed my TLA to a more PC version? (Grumpy Old PERSON?)
    • CommentAuthorbuflyer
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    Subway is never going to happen or work in the city. Water Table issues and costs. Bombardier has a nice product line for light transportation called "Flexity", they have provided Minneapolis with their new Light Rail.

    http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id=1_0&lang=en&file=/en/1_0/1_1/1_1_1_3.jsp

    Also many European projects. Maybe they should come in and give us a quote? :)

    and here: http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id=1_0&lang=en&file=/en/1_0/1_1/1_1_1_3.jsp

    Disclosure: I do not own any Bombardier shares :)
    Thankful People: Omega
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: buflyer</cite>Disclosure: I do not own any Bombardier shares :)</blockquote>Perhaps it's time to buy some. With oil prices going through the roof rapid transit use will grow and grow.
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      CommentAuthorNorthlands
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    Half and half LRT with some underground.

    Have a main station downtown. Then a north/south corridor. Garden City mall station to like U of M , with a future consideration for a line to St. Vital Mall. East/West line from Kildonan Place, and perhaps some consideration for a stop in the manufacturing area of Transcona, all the way west to Polo Park. It would work great if the Stadium was still kept out there.

    Just think, I mean its a rather simple setup, but it can conceivably hit many major stops along the way in each corridor. All we'd have to do is decide what areas of town to wreck to put in an above ground train bridge so that we won't have to obliterate scores of homes and businesses just to get it started. :D


    Just a really, REALLY rough draft idea here.
    • CommentAuthorWinklovic
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    I'd like a form of transportation that doesn't leave a trail of oil and diesel in its wake.

    <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2639835916_43b2e05cb2.jpg"</img>
    Graham Avenue, westbound at Donald
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      CommentAuthorfabiocdn
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    But they usually call it air-conditioner condensation...
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    We don't need air conditioning in Winnipeg. It rarely goes over 21C.
    • CommentAuthorbuflyer
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    Map of Minneapolis "Hiawatha Line" Goes from Mall of America to downtown Warehouse District. Transit buses connect with the rail system. Don't we have right of ways with the rail companies for this?

    Here's the link: http://www.metrotransit.org/rail/

    "Rail fares are the same as local bus fares ($2.00 during rush hours, $1.50 at all other times)"

    The Green info page: http://www.metrotransit.org/gogreener/index.asp

    Also they report : "Metro Transit closed 2007 with 77 million rides, the highest annual ridership total since 1982."

    Sure looks pretty.
      photoRail.jpg
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      CommentAuthorGoth_chic
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: grumpy old man</cite>We don't need air conditioning in Winnipeg. It rarely goes over 21C.</blockquote>

    Today must be an exception...
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      CommentAuthorLivingdead
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: pissinginthetent.com</cite>Look, let's cut the crap ! Subway !!!!
    Warm in the winter , cool in the summer.<div class="ThankfulPeople">Thankful People:<span><a href="http://www.newwinnipeg.com/community/account/430/">conceitedjerk</a>,<a href="http://www.newwinnipeg.com/community/account/1024/">Northlands</a></span></div></blockquote>

    You forgot, Flooded in the spring.
    Thankful People: umcrouc0, Omega

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