Not signed in (Sign In)

Welcome, Guest

Want to take part in these discussions? Sign in if you have an account, or apply for one below

Vanilla 1.1.3 is a product of Lussumo. More Information: Documentation, Community Support.

Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: Your definition: a world-class city

Bottom of Page

41 to 54 of 54

  1. <
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. >
  1.  
    We take the worst approach to some of the older areas in town. Take the last two contentious issues about past vs present or existing neighbourhood vs 'shiny objects': the WRHA Main Street (about $14m) and the proposed South Point Douglas stadium etc. (about $200m) <br>
    <br>
    We put absolutely ZERO into both areas for decades, ignore them completely, let them rot away and then one day the money dam bursts and we throw tens or hundreds of millions at them to completely demolish and provide a 'perfectly designed' (to use Jacob's expression) revitalization project - it's the only way we know how to deal with things as we do it time and time again when we have a revitalization issue to deal with. <br>
    <br>
    I wonder if we took just 10, 15, 20% of these amounts and invested it these neighbourhoods and / or used it as seed money what interesting places we could come up with. Eventually we're just going to end up with islands of questionably successful multi-million dollar megaprojects surrounded by huge empty parking lots. <br>
    <br>
    I am not exactly sure what the end result is that we are going for. Empty land and what we do have as built environment has all the soul and charm of a Calgary. Meh. We have a great heritage in some of these neighbourhoods and should work with that it rather than spending so much cash to be scrubbing it away IMO.
    •  
      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Moderator
    Good point, Mr. C. It's strange how there was hardly a dime to be found for South PD for all those years, and then all of a sudden there are hundreds of millions of dollars made available to raze the neighbourhood and put up a stadium.
  3.  
    I heard someone ask (it may have been sammy): "Prior to the recent Point Douglas issues had you even heard of Point Douglas?" I had not really heard of the area. I certainly had not recognized the area for what it is and for what it could be.
    •  
      CommentAuthorJimmytufish
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008 edited
     
    Heh..Point Douglas has been discovered much like North America was discovered eh.

    The worst thing that could happen to the area is to have a stadium built there imo. That is a perfect area for infill housing and all the associated things that are needed to contribute to a successful neighbourhood. A stadium would be a waste of the land imo.

    That's another reason, the stadium should not go there.

    (edit: oops...thought this was a stadium thread...)
    Thankful People: StBPegger
  5.  
    Moderator
    For ready access to a mostly-wilderness state, I'd probably say that Ottawa takes the cake in Canada. From downtown to the forested hills in Gatineau in 20 minutes.

    But Winnipeg offers a different (and no less pleasing) experience with getting onto the wide-open prairies. My one complaint about living in Toronto is the sense of almost-claustrophobia I feel sometimes. I haven't necessarily had a lot of time (or ready access to a vehicle) to get out of the city, but it'd make me feel better knowing it wouldn't take me at least two hours if I did want to.
    Thankful People: Jimmytufish
    • CommentAuthorFreakyGirl
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    I think "World Class City" is just a sleezy sales term, full of emptiness and nothingness but impresses many who do not think beyond the slogan.
    Thankful People: Sputnik, conceitedjerk
  7.  
    All a City needs to be considered "World Class", is a Jewish Mayor! New York has, and so do we!! lol
    • CommentAuthorEdWin
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    Posted By: MasterofChant

    But Winnipeg offers a different (and no less pleasing) experience with getting onto the wide-open prairies. My one complaint about living in Toronto is the sense of almost-claustrophobia I feel sometimes. I haven't necessarily had a lot of time (or ready access to a vehicle) to get out of the city, but it'd make me feel better knowing it wouldn't take me at least two hours if I did want to.
    Thankful People:Jimmytufish


    But see, that is what I love about Toronto; it's so big that you can get lost in the sea of humanity. In Canada, you have the majority of cities that are small enough that it's easy to leave them. But Toronto is unique in that it is so big that it takes a while to leave. This is rare in Canada. I've always loved Toronto; it's constantly pumping and jumping with excitement. Perhaps Montreal is only Toronto's true competition in that sense.
  9.  
    Moderator
    Posted By: EdWin
    Posted By: MasterofChant

    But Winnipeg offers a different (and no less pleasing) experience with getting onto the wide-open prairies. My one complaint about living in Toronto is the sense of almost-claustrophobia I feel sometimes. I haven't necessarily had a lot of time (or ready access to a vehicle) to get out of the city, but it'd make me feel better knowing it wouldn't take me at least two hours if I did want to.
    Thankful People:Jimmytufish


    But see, that is what I love about Toronto; it's so big that you can get lost in the sea of humanity. In Canada, you have the majority of cities that are small enough that it's easy to leave them. But Toronto is unique in that it is so big that it takes a while to leave. This is rare in Canada. I've always loved Toronto; it's constantly pumping and jumping with excitement. Perhaps Montreal is only Toronto's true competition in that sense.


    Oh, I love it most of the time. Being urban-focused in general, I love the mass of humanity that Toronto offers. But sometimes I need to get away...
  10.  
    Exactly. The best way to love Toronto is to be able to afford the three hour drive to a million dollar cottage imo. Otherwise, just visit.
    •  
      CommentAuthorfabiocdn
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    Winnipeg is the biggest little city where you can easily memorize the whole city map to get around.
    My hockey teammate who was born and grew up in TOR, doesn't even know his way around his city, just his bourough and where he went to school, and Yonge St...
  12.  
    Moderator
    Posted By: JimmytufishExactly. The best way to love Toronto is to be able to afford the three hour drive to a million dollar cottage imo. Otherwise, just visit.


    No, that's not what I meant. I enjoy living in Toronto, enough that I'm willing to put up with the sprawl that separates my home downtown with the natural landscapes north of here.

    Besides, camping's cheap... no need to spend a million dollars on a cottage.
  13.  
    Sorry for the confusion. I shoulda' worded my thoughts differently.
  14.  
    World Class is a state of mind.

    Toronto has been trying to be world class for years, yet it still thinks that it is not.

41 to 54 of 54

  1. <
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. >