Charges of aggravated assault are pending against a 21-year-old man from the area, who was released on a promise to appear in court and an undertaking with conditions.
This is just getting ridiculous already any chance we can treat criminals worse then victims instead of better?
WTF???? he assaults someone with a freakin bat and he is already out!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!
Hey, we better make sure the batter isn't a member of this forum. You know, me talking about the Selkirk Ave. guy walking around with a baseball bat... might give someone weird ideas...
It happens when you drink 40 proof booze instead of american 80 proof...
We do not know all the circumstances. I never believe everything I read in a "news" story for starters, especially the notoriously sleezey Winnipeg Sun. For those who read the article, it gave little if any information on why the 39 yr old was beaten. It could have been targeted, I doubt it was random as very rarely does anyone just go up to a random person and beat them with a baseball bat. I of course could be totally wrong and it could be random. So for the police to release the guy on a promise to appear with conditions (most likely to stay away from the 39 yr olds house and family) is not uncommon in the least. Most likely if the 39 yr old was targeted for whatever reason (for instance he slept with the 21 year old's sister/girlfriend/etc - me just making something up here, like the Winnipeg Sun would and does) then the 21 yr old is most likely not a threat to anyone else.
Did he? I assume you were there and saw it then? Otherwise, you are assuming he did it based on the little blurb you quoted from the Winnipeg Sun (of all places!).
The Sun is notorious for writing up a short blurb on a story which gets people fuming and then they retract their story or update it the next day with the facts which are nothing close to what they originally reported. As a result I don't even read the Winnipeg Sun anymore, it's a waste of my time.
The Sun is notorious for writing up a short blurb on a story which gets people fuming and then they retract their story or update it the next day with the facts which are nothing close to what they originally reported. </blockquote> I read the Sun (along with a few other papers) every day. I cannot remember the last time the Sun retracted a story. Please provide some background for this "notorious" behaviour will ya?
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: FreakyGirl</cite>We do not know all the circumstances. I never believe everything I read in a "news" story for starters, especially the notoriously sleezey Winnipeg Sun. For those who read the article, it gave little if any information on why the 39 yr old was beaten. It could have been targeted, I doubt it was random as very rarely does anyone just go up to a random person and beat them with a baseball bat. I of course could be totally wrong and it could be random. So for the police to release the guy on a promise to appear with conditions (most likely to stay away from the 39 yr olds house and family) is not uncommon in the least. Most likely if the 39 yr old was targeted for whatever reason (for instance he slept with the 21 year old's sister/girlfriend/etc - me just making something up here, like the Winnipeg Sun would and does) then the 21 yr old is most likely not a threat to anyone else.</blockquote>
I get a hint that you feel that the guy may have had some justification in beating the other guy with a bat. Your prejudice towards the Sun's reporting aside, don't you think that would have been part of the story, you know, jealous rage, self defence or whatever?
I know that if someone wronged me, given the opportunity, I would certainly want to leave them with a momento of the encounter, (lop sided smile, gratuitous nose job, inability to procreate), but to beat someone that severely with a bat??
One can do as much damage with one well placed punch in one's head as one can with a baseball bat. That 110 word intensively investigated story is so short on facts that to draw any conclusions is folly. The 21 year old may have hit the 39 year old once, and ended up with the same results, and the same charges. Since no one actually knows what happened except the two dudes why not we wait until a little more is known and we can save our indignation for the Aspers and anyone else that might want to do something innovative and creative in Winnipeg.
Freethinker, I didn't even really think if the guy is justified, my point was I do not know if he actually did it. He could have, certainly seems that way, but I'm not about to make assumptions about something I was not there to witness. That was my point, nothing more.
To me, the Sun is like reading a mild version of the National Enquirer. If you read it every day then I'd be very surprised if you haven't read Brodbeck (for one) and as the story unfolded realized the story was updated as the days went on to reflect something other than originally reported.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: FreakyGirl</cite>Freethinker, I didn't even really think if the guy is justified, my point was I do not know if he actually did it. He could have, certainly seems that way, but I'm not about to make assumptions about something I was not there to witness. That was my point, nothing more.
To me, the Sun is like reading a mild version of the National Enquirer. If you read it every day then I'd be very surprised if you haven't read Brodbeck (for one) and as the story unfolded realized the story was updated as the days went on to reflect something other than originally reported.</blockquote>
Now I've never been one to defend the Winnipeg Sun, but I sure hope you apply the same scrutiny to any other newspaper you read. Especially when it comes to major stories. It's best to get information from as much sources as possible and to weight the differences seen. I don't think I've ever encountered a daily that didn't have errors in it once in a while.
Good point. I do apply the same scrutiny, and not just newspapers either. I can't disbelieve everything, but I do know the "headline news" types of stories can be extremely biased and full of errors.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: FreakyGirl</cite>Good point. I do apply the same scrutiny, and not just newspapers either. <b>I can't disbelieve everything</b>, but I do know the "headline news" types of stories can be extremely biased and full of errors.</blockquote>
Good that you don't disbelieve everything you read either. Like Grumpy said, take some things with a grain of salt when listening, reading..etc. People who go beyond it are typically looking for conspiracies where none exist. :D