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1. • CommentAuthorwpgguy
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

    
   I am the only one that thinks it's ridiculous to say we are protecting our children and construction workers by issuing Photo radar tickets for doing 85 on Lag in a construction zone with no one working - or sitting vans by soccer fields in the middle of winter.
   
   forgive me if this a repeat post but wife got one and kinda got my back up. What happened to "when passing workers"
2. • CommentAuthorDeanK
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

    
   heh.. repeat post for sure :)
   
   And I was bitching about it, without even getting a ticket.
   
   True safety does not involved telling someone about it two weeks after they committed the offense.
3. •  
     CommentAuthorNorthlands
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited

    
   My brother got tagged there for doing 81 in the construction zone. ( For those who do not know, that section of Lagimodiere is normally 80km/h limit ) No one was working. Happened early on a Sunday morning. He had to pay $360. Funny thing is that the photo was fairly wide and showed nobody on either side of the road working either.
   
   It seems they've dropped " when passing workers " on all of the signs posted in construction areas across the city. I know they originally went up in the spring though. I'm wondering if there were any court challenges on photo radar tickets issued because of people "speeding" when workers were not present?
4. • CommentAuthorwpgguy
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited

    
   doing 5 kms over the posted on a sunday - do they just issue and not look them over
5. • CommentAuthorDeanK
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

    
   from the highway traffic act
   
   
   
   Signs indicating workers or equipment are present
   
   77(7.1) A traffic control device erected under clause (7)(a), or another traffic control device the traffic authority erects adjacent to it or before any part of the construction zone where workers may be present or using equipment, may indicate
   
   (a) that workers are present or using equipment in the construction zone; and
   
   (b) that, while workers are present or using equipment in the construction zone, travel on the highway is prohibited, or traffic must proceed on the highway only in the manner or at the permissible speed indicated by the traffic control device.
6. •  
     CommentAuthorGrumpy_Old_Guy
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

    

   Posted By: wpgguydoing 5 kms over the posted on a sunday - do they just issue and not look them over

   
   
   When the main objective is to collect money, yes.
7. • CommentAuthorDeanK
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

    
   Meaning of construction zone
   
   95(1.1) In subsection (1.2), "construction zone" means a portion or length of highway
   
   (a) that is under construction, or where any reconstruction, widening, marking, repairs or other work is being done by or on behalf of the traffic authority, including installation of, and repairs and modifications to, the equipment or facilities of any person who the traffic authority allows to maintain equipment or facilities on or under the highway; and
   
   (b) that is identified as a construction or work zone by approved traffic control devices placed at the beginning and end of the zone facing each direction of travel in the zone.
   
   Speed when workers or equipment present
   
   95(1.2) Despite subsection(1), when workers are present or using equipment in a construction zone, or in part of a construction zone, where a traffic control device warning of their presence or the equipment's use has been erected in accordance with subsection 77(7.1), no person shall drive a vehicle in the construction zone, or in the particular part of it, at a rate of speed greater than the lesser of
   
   (a) the maximum speed otherwise permissible under subsection (1); and
   
   (b) the maximum permissible speed indicated by any traffic control device erected in accordance with subsection 77(7.1).
8. •  
     CommentAuthorcherenkov
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited

    

   Posted By: wpgguyWhat happened to "when passing workers"

   
   I saw a posted sign that said that very recently. 60km when passing workers. I guess they're hoping you'll assume that applies to all construction sites so that they can make more money. Photo radar in general pisses me off because they are used to generate revenue rather than protect the public, as your example illustrates. The photo camera at Corydon and Rte 90 is another example: there is no bloody way that going 65km/h there is dangerous (with good road conditions). Public Works has clearly documented that, but you get a ticket for doing it anyhow.
9. •  
     CommentAuthorgrumpy old man
   • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

    
   Photo radar is nothing but a cash grab. It does not change the way people drive. Except at known photo radar sites. So it should slow us down at construction sites. But common sense dictates that if the logic behind slowing down at constructions sites is to protect workers then when there are no workers lose the radar.
   
   Christ almighty we elect people to manage this for us. When will we see politicians do the right thing?

   Thankful People: StBPegger
10. •  
      CommentAuthorZwikster
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     
    photo radar is evil
    
    its time do something about it -
    
    http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
    
    the Europeans have the balls...we are so compliant over here.
11. •  
      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited

     
    Moderator
    When I lived in Edmonton, there was a rash of incidents where people heaved cinder blocks through the back windows of photo radar vans parked around the city.
    
    I can't condone the redlight camera torchings referred to in the page Zwikster linked to, but that probably wouldn't stop me from buying a beer for someone who did that here (and I say this as someone who has never received a ticket in his life).
12. •  
      CommentAuthorZwikster
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited

     

    Posted By: cancelbot
    I can't condone the redlight camera torchings referred to in the page Zwikster linked to, but that probably wouldn't stop me from buying a beer for someone who did that here (and I say this as someone who has never received a ticket in his life).

    
    
    I would buy that person a 24
13. •  
      CommentAuthorSputnik
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     

    Posted By: cancelbotWhen I lived in Edmonton, there was a rash of incidents where people heaved cinder blocks through the back windows of photo radar vans parked around the city.

    
    
    Thats pretty nuts considering there is always someone sitting in the van when it is active.
14. •  
      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     
    Moderator
    I know...the weird thing is that it happened several times, and when I left in summer 2005 the EPS still hadn't arrested anyone in connection with it as far as I can remember.
15. • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     

    Posted By: Sputnik

    Posted By: cancelbotWhen I lived in Edmonton, there was a rash of incidents where people heaved cinder blocks through the back windows of photo radar vans parked around the city.

    
    
    Thats pretty nuts considering there is always someone sitting in the van when it is active.

    
    
    nuts is not the word I would use...
    
    Freakin stupid, criminal and ignorant.
    
    Shit.. like the its the commissionaires fault that they have a job?
16. •  
      CommentAuthorpegcity
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited

     
    Isn't it sorta still a little dangerous speeding through construction zones even if the workers are done for the day? Down one lane, big empty gaps to be filled, metal construction signs. It's not just the constructions workers that may be in danger but also pedestrians and other drivers.
    I'm probably wrong.
    
    Is it a cash grab? of course it is but I bet you would rethink your speeding the next time you drive through a construction zone.
17. •  
      CommentAuthorwpg_idiot
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     
    I feel that the location of the photo radar (EXACT LOCATION) should be printed on the ticket, so the persons receiving it can find the place that it took place. I got one this week, and have no clue as to where the camera was in place, or if it was even near anything of importance. As from my recollection, a photo radar can only be placed in a construction zone, school zone, or near a park. Am I correct? This photo didn't indicate any of it.
    
    Also, my photo shows a distinct stream of water behind my vehicle. How could the picture be so clear if it was raining so hard?
18. •  
      CommentAuthorNorthlands
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     

    Posted By: pegcityIsn't it sorta still a little dangerous speeding through construction zones even if the workers are done for the day? Down one lane, big empty gaps to be filled, metal construction signs. It's not just the constructions workers that may be in danger but also pedestrians and other drivers.
    I'm probably wrong.
    
    Is it a cash grab? of course it is but I bet you would rethink your speeding the next time you drive through a construction zone.

    
    
    The problem here is though that originally the post signs read " Maximum 60km/h when passing workers or workers present ". Now the bottom half of many of these signs have mysteriously disappeared. Is it all of a sudden dangerous to drive the regular limit in these sections compared to years past?
19. • CommentAuthorlight11
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     
    how hard is it to SLOW DOWN for like 1 minute. not gunna hurt you.
20. •  
      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008

     
    They were removed because they weren't making enough money. Common sense has gone out the window and the politicians are only concerned with making money. Civic good? What's that?