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Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: Taman Inquiry

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    I feel so bad for the Taman family. What an awful shame that the cops were able to protect one of their own and the expense of justice. What is Harvey-Zenk up to these days? I would imagine he's alive and well, enjoying the company of his family.....unlike the Taman family.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
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    sorry, I'll go read that one ;)
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    How can you be sure that one can trust even the Topic Police?
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    don't worry, they don't have tasers ;)
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      CommentAuthorsmjpilot
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    I like this thread title better though.
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    I like this title better too. It's more relevant to the topic. I copied and pasted my comment from the other thread here. <p>

    Let's not fool ourselves, cops are above the law. The cop who interrogated Thane Rowntree was under oath when he gave his testimony which was in my opinion was not truthful. I doubt anyone in the courtroom believed what he said under oath. The judge questioned him on many of his claims. The Rowntree family foot the $45,000.00 bill to defend Thane and it was found that he was wrongfully charged, not to mention mistreated and abused while in custody. They were told they didn't stand a chance of recovering the money they spent to defend him. Why shouldn't Harvey-Zenk have to foot his own legal bill? He killed a woman. The cops who helped cover up the crime are also guilty, but they will never be held accountable, simply because they are cops.
    • CommentAuthoralex
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    This is a classic case of a cop getting away with murder.
    Thankful People: Zwikster
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    But what can we do about it? It's wrong on every level and they are accountable to the public, aren't they?
    • CommentAuthoralex
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008 edited
     
    Protest at City Hall, draw up petitions, donate towards class action suits against the City, harass our City Councillors and Mayor for action on cleaning up our police department.

    The problem, and the WPS are very open about this, is that the WPS are facing a crisis of shortage. A generation of cops are retiring and the WPS have shortened the training requirements and continue to overlook serious abuses of its officers to keep the minimum quota working. Yet somehow, the WPS enjoy a large share of the city budget with little expectations of how effective they are.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    "the WPS are very short on staff"

    Huh? How is this possible, considering we have the most cops per capita?
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    they are all busy checking on the people they already caught and the courts released it seems
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      CommentAuthorZwikster
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    I like Alex's response from the original thread -

    "The witnesses (his cop buddies who he was drinking with before he left the bar with his keys in hand) refused to help the investigation, by saying nothing. There was little for the case to go on, because just like the mad cowz boys who refused to testify, the case was weak.

    http://newwinnipeg.com/community/discussion/1289/

    So my blame goes beyond what the cop did and how it was handled, it goes to his cop buddies who made the court case weak by refusing to co-operate AFTER watching this guy pound drinks back and leave in his truck. I mean, right there, that's where someone responsible and knows the law should stop you. This guy drives off and killed a mother of three and gets off.. oh right, he was "sentenced" to house arrest with a curfew. Meanwhile a firefighter (their job IS FAR MORE riskier than a cop's job) with some porn in his locker gets an UNPAID suspension and demotion. It's sick. Firefighters get treated like crap, while the police can't even police themselves.

    I chalk this up as one more reason I don't trust/respect the WPS.

    It's a two-tiered justice system. "

    so true....
    Thankful People: alex
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    Is it public record who these cops were who refused to testify and helped cover up a murder?
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    Is there anything that the police do public record?
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    I'd like to know their names....who knows maybe they're parents of my kid's friends....God forbid
    • CommentAuthoralex
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    Posted By: StBPegger"the WPS are very short on staff"

    Huh? How is this possible, considering we have the most cops per capita?


    Oops.. I edited my statement to what I was trying to say. They aren't short on cops, they're just facing a shortage based on the high per capita they have already in place. Thanks for pointing that out.
    Thankful People: StBPegger
    • CommentAuthoralex
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2008
     
    Posted By: WinnipegParentI'd like to know their names....who knows maybe they're parents of my kid's friends....God forbid

    Ahh.. this is why the cops refuse to have their names on them. If you want to know who they are, you have to file a complaint against them via LERA and wait four years. Cops however claim it's for safety reasons.. because you know, they're just cops. They don't know much about safety. :P
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    I read this in today's paper.

    <blockquote>Re: Taman knew of cops' drinking, June 3.

    So the Taman inquiry has opened with Crystal's family officially getting to voice their deep, personal pain and profound disappointment with our justice community. My heart goes out to them and I cannot, for the life of me, imagine how horrible their experience has been.

    Unfortunately, I also cannot believe that this inquiry is much more than two million dollars' worth of political damage control. Inquires can only make recommendations which may, may not, or may partially, be implemented by those affected at their choosing (AJI?). We are closing the door after the proverbial horses have fled. One is serving a conditional sentence and probably filling his days cutting the lawn/shovelling snow, watching TV and concocting new drinks. The other has shed the skin of law enforcement and <b>flogs real estate</b>. As for this inquiry preventing such a travesty from happening again, I am deeply suspicious... No, I honestly have to say I don't believe it will. And I bet a lot of other middle-class, law-abiding Winnipeggers feel the same way.

    Stanley Dycke

    Winnipeg</blockquote>

    So what real estate firm does this bozo work for? Anyone know?
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    Someone mentioned that some of the cops were from District 3. I believe that's the same district that the cops who arrested and interrogated Thane Rowntree are from. How do you find out this sort of info? Anyone know?

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