He's opened up the debate, and that's a good thing. I think it's a given we need to do something about our environment, and, aside from strict regulations imposed on the populace (can't see a lot of people supporting that), a carbon tax at least gives people the option to change things to reduce their overall tax contribution. <p> But, I guess it's now a no-no for a Liberal to bring forward an item to open up discussion.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: DeanK</cite>excuse me... but where does it say he is opening it up for discussion?</blockquote>Well it seems like he has been successful :)
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: DeanK</cite>excuse me... but where does it say he is opening it up for discussion?</blockquote> <p> Oh, come down from your high horse. ANYTHING a politician says pre election, pre policy, pre law-making is open for discussion, and to alterations and changes as a result of the prevailing public opinion.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: MasterofChant</cite><blockquote><cite>Posted By: DeanK</cite>excuse me... but where does it say he is opening it up for discussion?</blockquote><p>Oh, come down from your high horse. ANYTHING a politician says pre election, pre policy, pre law-making is open for discussion, and to alterations and changes as a result of the prevailing public opinion.</p></blockquote>
Seriously it's not like he just forced it down commons through with a majority government. He put the idea out there, that is all....
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: Mr. Nobody</cite>Just a thought, how do you tell someone to get off their high horse when you are looking down on them ?</blockquote>
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: DeanK</cite>no.. he is saying the Liberals support this because all Canadians do..
This "policy" should be properly brought up at the right levels of the liberal populace lest Dion drive more people away from the party....</blockquote>
Becasue i know that every party out there has a plebiscite on all new policy platforms before they even bring one up.
Dion won the liberal leadership under the green banner. This is what the liberal party wants....and if, in the event of an election he wins, this is what the canadian public wants (at least enough to put him power).
yeah but all he is doing is driving more people away... he is NO TOUCH AT ALL with the populace any more.. HE and HE alone is the reason that Liberals will NOT win the next election and that they will end up with even less seats.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: DeanK</cite>yeah but all he is doing is driving more people away... he is NO TOUCH AT ALL with the populace any more.. HE and HE alone is the reason that Liberals will NOT win the next election and that they will end up with even less seats.</blockquote>
Why do you think he is driving people away. Most people i associate with have supported this idea for 5 years. It's a major part of the green party platform as well.
And where is he driving people away too. The conservatives under harper have hit their wall. People aren't going to switch to the ndp over this, in fact most would probably switch to the liberals. Same thing with the greens (who now make up a good portion of the vote). This is actually a pretty bold risk he is taking but could pay off handsomely. Even some conservatives might be enticed by the fact that they would have more control over the money they make instead of the government just taking it from the get go and then deciding where it will go. Seems pretty win win to me.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: zander</cite>So he just came up with this idea to get some airtime? Or is this actually a policy platform for the next election?</blockquote>
If it doesn't become a key component of his main policy then I would say yes.
<blockquote><cite>Posted By: benevolentspaceman</cite>And where is he driving people away too. The conservatives under harper have hit their wall. People aren't going to switch to the ndp over this, in fact most would probably switch to the liberals. Same thing with the greens (who now make up a good portion of the vote). This is actually a pretty bold risk he is taking but could pay off handsomely. Even some conservatives might be enticed by the fact that they would have more control over the money they make instead of the government just taking it from the get go and then deciding where it will go. Seems pretty win win to me.</blockquote><p>
Yes - the NDP made a big mistake by not jumping on this one, but I don't think the CAW would let them. ;)<p>
With this proposal, Dion might recapture some of the votes that the NDP 'borrowed' in the last election. And as far as dealing with climate change goes, this is a better move than laying down more regulations.<p>
And just to make J2F blink (heh!), if Harper had brought this idea forward, I would have voted Conservative.