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Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: CFS should fight back against Lindor

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      CommentAuthorJimmytufish
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: cancelbotWhat would be interesting to know is the Northern Authority's total budget, and the amount that is allocated to PR/advertising. On its own, $140,000 does not seem like a crazy amount of money to spend on PR, but if the organization's total budget is $2 million, then maybe it is.

    A little context is necessary here.
    The idea of "advertising" or "promotion" for an agency of this nature is absurd, no matter the amount.

    If they have to advertise, you gotta' know somethings wrong with what they're doing. What they're doing has to change and advertising won't change things.

    What next...an ad jingle for eveyone to sing along to??
    Thankful People: jim, grumpy old man
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008 edited
     
    I don't the problem is necessarily CFS. The problem lies more with the fact that there are too many kids who need help. The people wo work there are burnt out and just aren't at their best anymore. But it is better than nothing.
    You can give and give more to CFS, but how long will that solution last when you have moms out there making baby after baby without consequence?
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    StB...stay on track, this is about North's running battle with lindor's ability to report the news.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    No Mr.Nob, that's the way you see it.

    I see it as northenders frustration with the sh*tting on CFS.
    Thankful People: northender
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    Perhaps CFS should remove their rose coloured glasses and come to the realization that some people will never be responsible and should never be allowed to have kids. Some people need to be sterilized.

    ...and maybe, we should bring back Residential Schools.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Again, I don't think it is CFS, but the people who put CFS into place.

    But totally agree on the rest :)
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Actually St,B , he wants to restrict her ability to write. he had the same prob when she wrote about that family. Obviously, she feels she has the right to write. So do I
    • CommentAuthornorthender
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Posted By: Jimmytufish
    Posted By: cancelbotWhat would be interesting to know is the Northern Authority's total budget, and the amount that is allocated to PR/advertising. On its own, $140,000 does not seem like a crazy amount of money to spend on PR, but if the organization's total budget is $2 million, then maybe it is.

    A little context is necessary here.
    The idea of "advertising" or "promotion" for an agency of this nature is absurd, no matter the amount.

    If they have to advertise, you gotta' know somethings wrong with what they're doing. What they're doing has to change and advertising won't change things.

    What next...an ad jingle for eveyone to sing along to??
    Thankful People:grumpy old man


    I thought this campaign was aimed at kids in care. What's wrong with that?

    I hope CFS goes ahead with this campaign. It would be a great thing for the children it serves. Too many First Nation kids grow up without pride in themselves. And IMO that is the biggest challenge they face. That and stereotypes that depict them as losers.
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    No, N. The campaign is a pure PR initiative aimed at rehabilitating their reputation. This is a collosal waste of money. Take every penny and spend it on the kids. A TV ad saying how great the CFS is borders on criminal.
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    Now it seems that they were going to cut back on providing services in order to pay for this advertising.

    The Province has just kabotched the idea of them spending money on advertising. (6pm news)

    (seems cooler / smarter heads have prevailed)
    • CommentAuthornorthender
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Everything I have seen says it focuses on the kids. I'm not supportive of a pr campaign for CFS, but I think it is very necessary to begin to portray some of the positive role models of kids who have been through the system to kids currently in it.

    I say that because all the neighbourhood kids I know have been in care, know someone who has been in care, or are in care themselves. This is a big part of their lives. Constantly depicting CFS intervention as a terrible and frightening experience is traumatic for kids about to be fostered, and it needn't be. Not every story ends in a tragedy.
    • CommentAuthorEastSider
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Should it not be up to the parents to instill pride in the native children? And failing that native elders? I was in South Dakota last summer for a week, I could not believe the great pride the indian people had in themselves out there, carving a mountain into a memorial for Crazy Horse, and not 1 penny coming from the government, I should add Henry Standing Bear requested the carving and is being done by the Ziolkowski family. Why can't our own natives have such pride?
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    If they need a PR campaign to let people know about what they do, they have to be dissolved and we have to start over.
    Thankful People: northender
    • CommentAuthornorthender
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    We are talking about kids in care. IN other words, they are wards of the state and they have guardians. And that isn't the same thing as a parent.
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    It might just be that the native agencies are being staffed with people that are not qualified.
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      CommentAuthorGoth_chic
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Growing up, I never knew one person in foster care. These days it seems to be an epidemic. A co-worker of mine has both her kids in care....not really sure why as she hasn't ever said. I understand the need for CFS but it seems there are way too many children being placed in care. Where are the parents? Grandparents? I had a friend who was raised by his grandparents because his Mom was too young when she had him. Something needs to change for the sake of these kids.
    Thankful People: Jimmytufish, northender, StBPegger
    • CommentAuthornorthender
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Nothing is going to change. There is no way the federal government is going to pass any kind of law that allows forced steralization on men and women, for whatever reason. And grandma and grandpa may be no more suitable as parents. We're stuck with these kids.
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    It is not the responsibility of the CFS to promote positive role models. As positive as that may be. They need to stick to their knitting. After all they keep pleading poverty "we are chronically underfunded."
    Thankful People: jim
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    Scary thought. We will have some kind of sub-culture thingy running around with their brains fried from birth.

    Is this some kind of sneaky way of getting back at the white man by making the government responsible for all these people?
    • CommentAuthornorthender
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Posted By: grumpy old manIt is not the responsibility of the CFS to promote positive role models. As positive as that may be. They need to stick to their knitting. After all they keep pleading poverty "we are chronically underfunded."

    Who should be doing that job. Volunteers? Community centres?

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