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Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: Disraeli bridge

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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    As for the lack of traffic, this is what the newsletter says:
    http://winnipeg.ca/publicworks/MajorProjects/DisraeliBridges/newsletterApril2008.pdf
    <blockquote>Vibration through the deck and piers caused by traffic during construction poses significant risk. If traffic were to flow over the bridge before the concrete deck is fully set, which usually takes more than 72 hours, the result would be a lower quality roadway with possibly-inferior structural integrity, reduced service life, and higher long-term maintenance and repair costs. Therefore, even if the bridges were partly-open to traffic during construction, numerous closures would be required to pour the new deck, making for a longer construction schedule and higher project costs.

    Moreover, traffic impacts for partly-open and fully closed options are virtually the same. Mitigative measures are being developed to
    minimize impact and help downtown area traffic flow better during the project. These include traffic signal optimization, parking changes, added turning lanes/prohibitions, and special access turns for Elmwood businesses and residents immediately east
    of the bridge. More measures will be developed and evaluated as the project proceeds from concept form to the more detailed design phase.</blockquote>
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      CommentAuthorsmjpilot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    Nordman wins for tactless straight-to-the-point conciseness. Way to start an East-West fight Nordo!
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    I think that's probably the first time I've heard Grant Nordman's name mentioned... anywhere after the election.
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    Mind you, the same can be said of Jim Malloway, and I used to live in his riding.
    Thankful People: cancelbot
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      CommentAuthorsmjpilot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: MasterofChant</cite>I think that's probably the first time I've heard Grant Nordman's name mentioned... anywhere after the election.<p>Mind you, the same can be said of Jim Malloway, and I used to live in his riding.</p></blockquote>Yes, such a great opportunity for both to make a name for themselves!
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    I like the idea of the buses only. Even if the buses had to take it at 30 kmh to ease up on vibrations - it's better than the alternative.
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      CommentAuthorSputnik
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: mrchristian</cite>I like the idea of the buses only. Even if the buses had to take it at 30 kmh to ease up on vibrations - it's better than the alternative.</blockquote>

    In reality they also only have to make it over the river. After which they could exit and bypass the rest of the freeway and go down Higgins to get onto Main St.
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    yeah man .. that idea really could work...bike, bus and walking traffice only... man that would really be nice. It would slam home the green commuting and Aleviate a huge chunk of the traffic onsgestion
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      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
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    That is a great idea, Sputnik. I am going to suggest it to my city councillor.
    Thankful People: StBPegger
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      CommentAuthorsmjpilot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    Maybe Nordman's onto something... if all the East-siders would stay on the East, then there is no need for the bridge in the first place! Just close the bridge and keep the $125 - $160 million! ;-)
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    yeah.. but they would still be able to get over here in the winter time.. so hmm.... we would maybe have to install some sort of thermal generating station to warm up the river and melt the ice.... and BAMO! goodbye $125 million.
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Sputnik</cite><blockquote><cite>Posted By: mrchristian</cite>I like the idea of the buses only. Even if the buses had to take it at 30 kmh to ease up on vibrations - it's better than the alternative.</blockquote>

    In reality they also only have to make it over the river. After which they could exit and bypass the rest of the freeway and go down Higgins to get onto Main St.</blockquote>
    Ah, very true. One span only. Even if there were days that it was not possible to travel over I could only imagine, with my limited bridge building knowledge mind you, that at least 75% of the time there would not be an issue passing over via bus. That's huge vs. no access for 16 months.
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      CommentAuthorsmjpilot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: DeanK</cite>yeah.. but they would still be able to get over here in the winter time.. so hmm.... we would maybe have to install some sort of thermal generating station to warm up the river and melt the ice.... and BAMO! goodbye $125 million.</blockquote>Nah, just time the dumps of raw sewage into the river in a strategic manner... that'll take care of that ;-)
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: smjpilot</cite>Maybe Nordman's onto something... if all the East-siders would stay on the East, then there is no need for the bridge in the first place! Just close the bridge and keep the $125 - $160 million! ;-)</blockquote>
    Lol...put a toll bridge at the North and South Perimeter only ;-)
    • CommentAuthorEastSider
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: smjpilot</cite>Maybe Nordman's onto something... if all the East-siders would stay on the East, then there is no need for the bridge in the first place! Just close the bridge and keep the $125 - $160 million! ;-)</blockquote>

    Hey now Pilot!! I want my cake and eat it too!! I wouldn't trade my east side home and I wouldn't trade my west side job either! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! :-)
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008 edited
     
    I used to spend a lot of time in Lockport around the time they closed the Locks and Dam for renos ! Lol, that was funny as you had people in a house on the other side of the bridge that could look right into their workplaces but had to hoof it to near Selkirk to cross. Whenever we got together for drinks people would jokingly make a big deal saying goodbye to friends and girlfriends heading back to the other side. "bye, dear, I promise I'll write !"
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      CommentAuthorsmjpilot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    Eastsider, keep your yellow slime and hog manure on your side of the river, and stay out of my pipe! HAHA
    Thankful People: EastSider
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    No matter what Malloway did the city councilors response was fully inappropriate, immature and should be grounds for censure. Whatever happened to grace and dignity and turning the other cheek? I am tired of our elected officials acting like boors. Frickin grow up Steeves, Norman, et al.
    Thankful People: MasterofChant, StBPegger
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      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
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    Posted By: grumpy old manNo matter what Malloway did the city councilors response was fully inappropriate, immature and should be grounds for censure. Whatever happened to grace and dignity and turning the other cheek? I am tired of our elected officials acting like boors. Frickin grow up Steeves, Norman, et al.


    Sounds to me like Maloway tried to pull some funny shit and got called on it. I guess he thought he could try and score political points by scapegoating city councillors... no reason they should take that sitting down. Maloway got what he had coming.

    Between "Mr. Backbench" Jim Maloway and Lillian "Missing in Action" Thomas, it's no real surprise that Elmwood is slipping. There isn't much political leadership there at all.
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      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008 edited
     
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    Posted By: cancelbotThat is a great idea, Sputnik. I am going to suggest it to my city councillor.


    Further to this, my councillor liked the idea and said that the suggestion will be mentioned to Public Works and the CAO.

    Where it goes from there is out of my hands, but at least I did my part!
    Thankful People: Sputnik, Ex-Pat-Pegger
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      CommentAuthorSputnik
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2008
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: cancelbot</cite><blockquote><cite>Posted By: cancelbot</cite>That is a great idea, Sputnik. I am going to suggest it to my city councillor.</blockquote>

    Further to this, my councillor liked the idea and said that the suggestion will be mentioned to Public Works and the CAO.

    Where it goes from there is out of my hands, but at least I did my part!<div class="ThankfulPeople">Thankful People:<span><a href="http://www.newwinnipeg.com/community/account/147/">Sputnik</a>,<a href="http://www.newwinnipeg.com/community/account/796/">Ex-Pat-Pegger</a></span></div></blockquote>

    Just PLEASE don't tell them it was done in Calgary.

    Then it will definitely get turned down to protect their egos.

    Perhaps I should leave the IT industry and move into civic politics. Even with my crass cynicism I will still look like a mouse compared to some of the jokers in City Hall.

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