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    It is the responsibility of the movers and shakers to get these things started....don't poo poo on them for trying. They are the ones who need to be doing this....

    ....do you got access to millions of dollars to fund these sorts of things? I don't. If I did Winnipeg would already be way cooler.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Actually, government needs to do it. they need to set the conditions for investors to bulldoze. if its the other way around, governement loses control and you get a mish mash, which is what we have.

    If the investors are privy to a concrete plan or vision, by all means invest. My point is that the whole area should be bulldozed and recreated.
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    Perhaps government, has created those conditions, and investors are ready to bulldoze. The mish mash, as you've mentioned, is a result of the planning, or lack of it, at the municipal level. I believe the City does now have a plan in place.

    Quit worrying your little head off.

    The sky is not falling.


    ...(I'm in a mood this morning).
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    No problem.
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    Posted By: Mr. NobodyActually, government needs to do it. they need to set the conditions for investors to bulldoze. if its the other way around, governement loses control and you get a mish mash, which is what we have. If the investors are privy to a concrete plan or vision, by all means invest. My point is that the whole area should be bulldozed and recreated.
    Though BMC itself isn't really a legal entity with investors. It's just something from a task force. I don't even think that there's a working group behind it anymore.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment that sometimes you need to pre-prepare for things which the city does not usually do. There's a lot less to BioMed City than meets the eye, though.
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008 edited
     
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    For those of you who do not know what an impact bio and the life sciences have on Winnipeg this is a scan from just the past week and a half (I have to do international infectious diseases news updates as part of my work):

    Frank Plummer, the Manitoban and U of M grad that heads the CSCHAH, receives yet another award:
    Israeli, Canadian disease experts develop partnership

    Another in a long line of international biosafety training sessions are held in Winnipeg:
    Global scientists here to study deadly diseases
    and
    World biosafety experts train at our virology lab

    An international AIDS Forum:
    HIV/AIDS Prevention Strategies for Ukraine Discussed at Canadian Forum

    Cangene, local private sector bio company, presenting at international forum:
    Cangene to Present at BIO 2008

    Also later this summer another International infectious Diseases conference:
    Disease Dynamics and Health Research A Canada-China Session in ICMB 2007

    Later this summer Dr. Henry Friesen will be receiving an award for his work
    Canadian Medical Association to present 2006 F.N.G. Starr Award to Dr. Henry Friesen

    Scientist coming to Winnipeg (this was in the Freep but did not make the on-line version):
    Married scientists discover our city Winnipeg the answer to researchers' dreams

    "When two clinical researchers were looking for the perfect place to do the work they love and to raise their family, Winnipeg was the only choice.

    David Eisenstat and his wife, Janice Richman-Eisenstat, have four children, two laboratories and key research positions at the Manitoba Institute of Cell Biology at CancerCare Manitoba and the University of Manitoba.

    "The U of M came out of nowhere," David said. "It wasn't on our radar." The Canadian couple had been living in San Francisco. After their fourth child was born, they scoured North America for two jobs in the same city where they could continue research in their chosen fields and clinical specialties.

    Thankful People: StBPegger, cherenkov
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    The impact could be much greater. instead of 2 you could attract thousands of these types.
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    There are hundreds of these types here now, not just two. 'The Lab ' is like a UN.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    The lab is one of a kind. We need more one of a kinds, thats why I'm, infavor of a massive project to turn that area into a one of kind in the country. Even if we have to bite the bullt on some issues.
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      CommentAuthorMR_Point
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008 edited
     
    the province sure is draging its feet though........ or so i am told
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/story/4177944p-4767138c.html

    West Alexander residents fear a bio-med expansion will encourage speculators to snap up properties?? -- renting out the houses or turning the land into parking lots while they wait for the actual development.

    "If there's a definite plan, investors will know it," said longtime resident Gordon Anderson during a walking tour of his neighbourhood. "One by one, they're going to pick away at the homes. One by one, they're going to turn West Alexander into a slum again."
    ...
    The big players and the city have tried to quell unease among some West Alexander residents. City Coun. Mike Pagtakhan, pointed to a provision in the development plan that promises no net loss in housing.

    "The plan says that there is no net loss of housing. How that works still has to be played out," he said.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    Let's hope they make a kick-arse presentation!

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/story/4177943p-4767131c.html

    Representatives of the National Microbiology Laboratory, the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority, and the University of Manitoba will present a proposal this week to the House of Commons standing committee on industry, which is stopping in Winnipeg as part of a national search for science and technology projects in which to invest.

    The so-called "L5L" project would see the establishment of several new facilities, all focused on the next generation of research, development and practical application of new techniques and technologies to combat infectious diseases. These new elements, which are considered the next building block in the development of the Bio-Med City model, include:

    A 40,000-square-foot addition to the existing National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) at the Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health on Arlington Street, which also serves as headquarters of the Public Health Agency of Canada.

    A stand-alone office building to house a research, development and training facility.

    A clinical research facility called the "ward of the future," which would combine research, development and treatment of patients with virulent infectious diseases.
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008 edited
     
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    For those interested in the Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health (aka "The Virology Lab") The Community Liaison Committee to the CSCHAH will be doing a couple of presentations about the lab, what it does etc (the tag line for the event is "Ebola and Marburg and Lassa, oh my !").

    Two sessions will be held on June 26th 2008:

    Noon at the Carol Shields Auditorium, Millennium Library

    7 pm at the CSCHAH auditorium, 1015 Arlington

    For more information 789-2000 or www.CommunityLiaisonCommittee.ca
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008
     
    "The plan says that there is no net loss of housing. How that works still has to be played out," he said"

    AHA!... but read into that... Say you own a house with a nice yard...They expropriate or whatever... but its okay...

    Because now you can move into an apartement... or its okay.. because you can move out further away from downtown to a house and some doctor or nurse can live in a highrise condo in your area.. dont worry.. its okay...
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008 edited
     
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    The committee, lab and other organizations have been working together for years on strategies. The idea, at least when I sat on it, was housing dedicated to residents that will be displaced whether in terms of a swap or money to fix up existing stock. Actually, if you go to the link above you can read what the reports to date what teh actual ongoing housing mitigation plan is.
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008
     
    Plans... please... like plans actually mean anything in this city
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    Nuke the GD houses. Stop getting in the way of progress.
    • CommentAuthorkurt
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: DeanK"The plan says that there is no net loss of housing. How that works still has to be played out," he said"

    AHA!... but read into that... Say you own a house with a nice yard...They expropriate or whatever... but its okay...

    Because now you can move into an apartement... or its okay.. because you can move out further away from downtown to a house and some doctor or nurse can live in a highrise condo in your area.. dont worry.. its okay...


    A plan is never going to please everyone, but if the alternative is to let the big institutions block-bust people out of their neighbourhood like they have for the past 20 years... I'd rather have some protective regulations, whether or not it's perfect.
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008 edited
     
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    I think the idea, back then anyway, was that if you were going to remove x number of homes that an equal number of homes should be renovated. Similar to what the UW and Spence Neighbourhood worked out when it came to taking down houses for the new science building. The community at least gets something out of it versus simply a stack of eviction notices.

    I am not sure where the plans for another pod for the lab is at. Eventually it will come but this group is about more than just the housing issue. It's the liaison between the Lab and community on lots of issues.
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      CommentAuthorcherenkov
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2008
     
    It's all good: high-tech jobs in the west end, houses getting fixed up, greater density, etc.. Yes, some people will be inconvenienced, but they could just as easily get expropriated and left to fend for themselves, or worse: the lab expansion could be moved out to Waverly or Plessis somewhere.