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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited
     
    You don't need to bulldoze houses to have vacant lots sitting around for 20 years. Lots of areas of the city have been razed for development that did not happen. <br>
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    The city works yard is in there and there have been discussions in the past about them vacating that land towards a physical BioMed city. <br>
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    I agree, though, that if land were already vacant (and there my be parts of it that are) that offering it up free does not hurt.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    Eventually they will move to Pacific and the virology lab or like industry can take up the space. But, without knowing what you want to accomplish first, accomplisheds nothing, you sit and wait while opportunity's go elsewhere.

    Smart City, a perfect example of half a dozen buildings which could have filled the space and brought people to the area.

    You have to make a decision and move forward. Perhaps my idea of grand projects and sacrificing for them to happen differs from most.
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited
     
    Yes, you are much mightier and more intelligent than we. <br>
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    For anyone wanting to read the task force report that included the BioMed city concept for Winnipeg it's laid out here...background on the 2003/4 task force is <a href="http://legcat.gov.ns.ca:211/z39/Manitoba/legislative/a?Manitoba.+Manitoba+Energy%2C+Science+and+Technology./5/5/1">
    here</a>
    the actual report is here:
    <a href="http://www.gov.mb.ca/stem/pdfs/fighting_disease.pdf">
    http://www.gov.mb.ca/stem/pdfs/fighting_disease.pdf</a><br>
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    Page 36 talks about the BioMed City cluster. There are full page drawings of what a BMC could look like in the paper copy but the on-line version there's smaller ones on p 9 and 10. <br>
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    It's a good idea but it needs to be very industry driven and right now the industry is happy with working on a virtual model.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    And the recent news was in yesterday's freep:

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/local/story/4172214p-4760582c.html
    City councillors will debate the plan at a community committee meeting May 26.

    Sure looks like there is some thought and planning behind it.
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    lol...I hadn't even seen that story ! Thanks for the link !
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    I figured it was what triggered this thread. But instead it went sideways into a "no planning" rant to move the U of M downtown.

    (Which, by the way, is so unlikely that the Jets would more likely return first AND we've have a subway at the same time...)
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    yeah dont forget 2 years ago when the residents were fighting the proposed hotel and parking garage that at the time the one councillor said.. something akin to, whats it matter the whole area will be a bio med area eventually anyway.. you cant stop it so why try.....

    that is a paraphrase from distant memory quote...so... dont quote me on it.
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      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
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    I know that some people in West Alexander have lived there for a long time and are reluctant to go, but given that the residential area is tiny and is surrounded by industrial and hospital uses, it is probably best to continue the area's transition. We all know the value of picking one's battles carefully, and I'm not sure that it is worth it to attempt to preserve a marginal residential area, especially in the face of what the city stands to gain from having a life-sciences campus in the inner city.

    It would probably have been quite easy for the powers-that-be to plant the virology lab out on Lagimodiere or McGillivray somewhere and left the area north of HSC to rot, but a bold step was taken in putting it where it is. By assembling a bit of a cluster in the area, it will have a positive effect.

    The residential areas west of Sherbrook around HSC have been in a fairly steady decline for decades, and I would be more concerned with preserving the areas that really have a good chance at improvement instead. I give thumbs up to bio-med city.
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    isnt this one of those cases where you can put...


    First they came for the ......
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    I didn't realize it was at the cc stage. I thought that was still along time off. I agree about what cbot says about the area. It is a trade off that I think is worth taking. It will be interesting to see if the city itself vacates the land that they're on sooner rather than later - that's by far the largest chunk.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited
     
    CommentAuthorStBPegger CommentTime59 minutes ago ThanksReport Postquote
    I figured it was what triggered this thread. But instead it went sideways into a "no planning" rant to move the U of M downtown.


    yep, you are right StB, about the Freep but nowhere did the rant get to Uof m, that would be beyond most. Smart City on the other hand was somehting that would have fit into the Virology Lab / redevlopment initiative.

    The City desperately needs something like this and fast. Leaving it up to industry won't cut it, they have tons of available land outside the Core. By plunking the Virology Lab at its present location, the government has opened the door, what will the City do about it.

    Start up the bulldozers.
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      CommentAuthorcherenkov
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    I like the Smart Park being where it is. It's good to have private industry integrated into a University campus. But maybe we can bulldoze a row of houses between the UofM and HSC to connect the two with a BioMed Super Corridor.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    Makes sense for Winnipeg cheren, I did see a horse pushing a cart once.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    CommentAuthormrchristian CommentTime2 hours ago edited ThanksReport Postquote
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    Yes, you are much mightier and more intelligent than we.


    lol, a little touchy. No, I'm just a little more creative with my thoughts and am able to sacrifice for change. Fact is, the inner core is rotten and you think it can stay the same for the next 100 years...I don't, and I look for ways to leverage the infrastructure as best as possible. I believe People must adapt to City's vs City's adapting to people. just a different perspective and i am happy to see they are talking about levelling 300 decrepit buildings whose shelflife has expired.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    Universities having a business park on or near campus isn't unique to Manitoba. It creates an environment of learning and allows access to the Uni's students.
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    I say bulldoze the entire HSC complex, The University of Manitoba and the Stadium and move them all to the rail yards.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
     
    Now why would you move HSC, I tellya some of you just plain make more work then ya have ta.
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    Why not bulldoze everything and build the city properly this time? /* sarcasm
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: conceitedjerk</cite>Why not bulldoze everything and build the city properly this time? /* sarcasm</blockquote>

    Can't...too many heritage buildings.
    Thankful People: EastSider, conceitedjerk
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    From Waverley West

    So Canterbury, the Aspers and Bob Silver's little venture with Marty Weinberg, is a financial backer of Bio-med City.
    Interesting.

    Looks like insiders will have no problem using bulldozers.