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1. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited

    
   Gotta love all the taglines that go around the city....oh well , its a good start to finally get rid of the junk housing in that area.
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     CommentAuthorMR_Point
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   biomed city is a old project thats been slow to get done...........

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3. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   yep, so old in fact Smart City was allowed to grow and another wasted opportunity.
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     CommentAuthorMR_Point
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited

    
   no not that old its part of the veroligy lab stuff infact the lab was pase one the siemens center and facuty of pharmacy and canads hotel are phase 2
5. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   well if its not that old, why did you say it was old ?????
   
   oh well, like I said, opportunity's missed, start the expropriation its only going to cost 100% more to buy the junk. George Funk will be really happy.
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     CommentAuthorMR_Point
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   lol its old to me i'm only 20
7. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   funny, you sound really old.
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     CommentAuthorcherenkov
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   Bio Med City was a bit of a pipe dream anyhow. Sounds cool and would be great if it happened, but you really need the private sector to buy into the city in a big way, which is a tough proposition around here. In anycase, if land is twice as expensive, they'll just have to build up instead of out and forget about joining up HSC with the lab.
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     CommentAuthorcherenkov
   • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

    
   I should have changed my handle to "Mr" Cherenkov for this thread.
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited

     
    allow another mr to join in !<br>
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    I worked with a group involved in BioMed City. It was never quite meant to be a multi million dollar clearout of the area. The initial task force suggested that some cities did create a physical "industiral park" for life sciences companies but that's really a huge task and expense. <br>
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    In reality I think most realized that for the foreseeable future it's to be more a virtual place linking the life sciences together in Manitoba (from UM, Cangene, CSSHAH,Cadham, Smith Carter etc. etc. etc.). Not to say that there isn't a cluster in that area already. If expansions are being done or new operations opening up it would be great to house them in that area and have it evolve into a bio industrial park but, again, most assume that it wasn't going to happen like that.

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11. •  
      CommentAuthorjim
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    Was at HSC the other day will there ever be a time that it is not under construction and when are they going to give free gps when you walk in the door what a place to get turned around in. Course maybe thats so you don't bother the really sick you get lost in the hall instead.
12. • CommentAuthorEastSider
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    I have never been able to get around HSC, good place for an old country boy to get lost in.
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      CommentAuthorjim
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    Hell Iam an old city boy and I got lost in 5 minutes
14. • CommentAuthorSam
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    HSC had to have been designed by a committee...or someone on drugs...maybe both.
15. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited

     
    Cheren i respectfully disagree. Sometime you have to bite the bullet. Government has the power to facilitate things for private business. Why is it so convenient for government to use the "tax' payback oif certain projects and not others.
    
    That whole area including the railyards needs an answer. Bio med City , pipe dream or not, is the type of project this City needs on the books. If you want a healthy downtown, reduce transit infrastructure costs, be environmentally clean, you will at some point have to do something.
    
    Point is, real estate was cheap, Smart City wasn't started, the whole are could have been bulldozed and all that private investment could have went there. Ok, missed opportunity, do we repeat it or do something about it. WHat does the City want to be when it grows up. Personally i like the idea of a strong Research and Development presence in that corner of Winnipeg's downtown. It could sure use a rebuild.
    
    People who assume it isn't going to happen are shortsighted and shouldn't be planning anything. They missed the boat and are defeated from the start.
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      CommentAuthorJimmytufish
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     

    Posted By: mrchristian
    
    In reality I think most realized that for the foreseeable future it's to be more a virtual place linking the life sciences together in Manitoba (from UM, Cangene, CSSHAH,Cadham, Smith Carter etc. etc. etc.).

    Could we not be the first to create a 'virtual life science city'? Put development money into creating a network that companies could plug into? That would be very attractive to some no?
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008 edited

     
    People aren't saying that it's not going to happen, it's just got to happen in stages and the first stages are to have the groups working together as an industry despite all having different masters. It's hoped that from that things will spin off or when places need to expand or new ones start up they will choose that area but right now to physically move the all life sciences places into that geographic area would cost a ton of cash when people are happy where the are located now. <br>
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    Whether they are physically located all in the same couple of acres or in different spots around the city the important parts is the research, production etc. that they do as a combined group
18. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    Sorry bud, but you have to create it. The longer you wait the worse it gets. City's need to evolve and people need to adapt. Alot of people were happy where they were on Taylor working for hydro, oh well, too bad so sad, you have to adapt. Now they can take the bus in , prop up the service, reduce gasoline consummption and add to the vibrancy of the downtown area.
    
    You get my drift. On the City level i don't particularly care if a professor likes to drive his Audi to Smart City. I would prefer he live downtown, park the Audi and "force " him downtown. Who knows, maybe he'll like it so much , he'll move in.
    
    Yesd jimmy you could, and that would be an excellent location to do it. Add in an Emryonic Stem Cell research Facility and you would make a big impact. The virtual Center would be a by prodcut of the development. WIth scientists and their research close at hand, building a 10 Gig pipelin in the community would be simple . Both research students and scientists would home in on the site.
    
    Other incubator type developments could grow, especially in math sciences and engineering and voila, you've reinvented yourself for the next 100 years.
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      CommentAuthorcherenkov
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    You can't displace people and bulldoze buildings without having anything to put there. I am all for government facilitating the development of private business, but you can't force business to build and invest here. You have to create the conditions for that growth to occur. Our government is not particularly good at that to begin with. We should put those conditions in place first, then expropriate property as needed.

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20. • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2008

     
    Sure you can displace people , its done all the time. Besides, that problem shouldn't be the wall that stops anyone from thinking about it. Housing displaced people is a minor inconvenience that is easily solved.
    
    Its a project Cheren, all phases shouild be addressed , but you have to make a decision, you can't hope , and pray that things evolve. If you do that, industry will go where its easier for them....outside the core. you have to make it so they have no choice.
    
    I am creating a condition, free vacant land attached to an area that is Bio City and a requirement for all like industry to locate there before anywhere else.
    
    I do know one thing, any developer doing anything of magnitude has a trusty bulldozer. But you know what, whats the point, the City doesn't have a vision and it will drift aimlessly.