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Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: Taser Guns Do Not Kill People Who Die After Being Tasered!

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      CommentAuthorNorthlands
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Here's what the police need.

    Longer nightsticks. They look scarier than tasers. They don't quite have that unknown factor that they could instantly kill you if two of them are used at the same time. The recipient will receive some bumps and bruises if they resist... but its preferable to the alternative. If people are worried about police using tasers indiscriminately, the longer nightstick, while it would now be even more imposing looking, would still require a more personal element of dealing with someone physically resisting arrest. This of course is more difficult to do, and I'd wager wouldn't be used as the most popular solution to dissolving conflict, like the taser seems to have become. The taser is much less personal, and so much easier to deploy.
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    how about the police just carry cattle rods?
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    A little tidbit I didn't know:
    "Taser" stands for "Thomas A. Swift Electric Rifle." It is named after a series of children's science-fiction novels written in the early 20th century featuring the young genius inventor Tom Swift.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tasers/index.html

    And speaking of cattle rods, I wonder if we could use a taser like one to get our way through crowds (that's a Simpsons reference).
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Wow, that's distrurbing:
    In Canada, however, Tasers are a prohibited weapon. Only one company can import them into Canada under a special permit, and they can only sell the devices to law enforcement agencies, said RCMP Cpl. Greg Gillis, who trains police officers how to use Tasers. Each Taser sale is registered and tracked, much like a handgun, he said.
    So the RCMP are teaching police how to use it? Yikes!
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    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Kinda hard to believe anything that CBC has to say when the line right before that is...

    "The target is immobilized and falls to the ground — regardless of pain tolerance or mental focus."

    Well thats a well known NONFACT..
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    heh... hows that for an extremely comical statement

    "Canadian police say Tasers have saved 4,000 lives since police forces started using them in this country in 1999. "

    LOL so Police would have shot and killed 4000 people since 1999 if they did not have taZers? Any chance we can have the truth from police about taZers instead of lies? Lieing only makes people suspect you of trying cover something up guys...
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    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    I can see why CBC said that.

    Some stun guns use a different method. Muscular Tetany doesn't immobilize you like Tasers, it only affects the point in between the barbs. You can fight out of that. RCMP used that method back in the 80's/90's. THey used a 4 barb system manufactured by TaserTron, ( TASR bought these guys out a few years ago ). That weapon was based on James McNulty's technlogy.

    Google Stinger vs Taser to see a third party test of effectiveness on both systems - Taser out preforms on every test. Simply, its the best product in the space and it holds a monopoly on the market.
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      CommentAuthorZwikster
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Excited Delirium .... I like that
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    You watch that human gunie pig show.

    The guy took TaZing and stood there.. almost actually pulled it out... simply put... not everyone gets dropped to the ground instantly.
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    How about COPS just leave people alone unless they've actually done something wrong?

    When Randy Dean Sievert saw Manatee County, Florida, sheriff's deputies executing a search warrant in his neighborhood, he pulled out his cell phone and took a photo. A deputy spotted him and demanded he destroy any photos of the officers and their vehicles. Sievert refused. He also refused to step away from his car when ordered, so deputies threw him to the ground and arrested him for obstruction. They later destroyed a photo he'd taken showing two undercover vehicles.

    Darren Nixon had left work and had just gotten of the bus taking him home when police officers, accompanied by police dogs and pointing guns at him, demanded that he stop. It turns out that a woman had seen his MP3 player and had mistaken it for a gun. That's something the Staffordshire, England, police should have figured out when they searched him after stopping Nixon. Instead, they took him into custody, photographed him, took his fingerprints and a DNA sample, and interrogated him. A spokesman for the department says the officers acted properly. No word on whether Nixon's prints, DNA, and mug shot will remain in their files.
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    Posted By: thorninyoursideHow about COPS just leave people alone unless they've actually done something wrong?

    When Randy Dean Sievert saw Manatee County, Florida, sheriff's deputies executing a search warrant in his neighborhood, hepulled out his cell phoneand took a photo. A deputy spotted him and demanded he destroy any photos of the officers and their vehicles. Sievert refused. He also refused to step away from his car when ordered, so deputies threw him to the ground and arrested him for obstruction. They later destroyed a photo he'd taken showing two undercover vehicles.

    Darren Nixon had left work and had just gotten of the bus taking him home when police officers, accompanied by police dogsand pointing guns at him, demanded that he stop. It turns out that a woman had seen his MP3 player and had mistaken it for a gun. That's something the Staffordshire, England, police should have figured out when they searched him after stopping Nixon. Instead, they took him into custody, photographed him, took his fingerprints and a DNA sample, and interrogated him. A spokesman for the department says the officers acted properly. No word on whether Nixon's prints, DNA, and mug shot will remain in their files.


    Two incomplete stories really don't add much to the discussion about tazers.
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    It's more than tasers, its about cops abusing their power. Tasers are a tool in that abuse.
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    And thats cops in general all over the world, based on 2 incidents?
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    You want more? I can keep going all night.

    Here's an interactive map of so-called "isolated incidents" in which the Po-leese catch the wrong people.
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    I love the figures that TaZZZing has saved 4000 lives!

    TaZZZZZZZZZZZZZing is alright if used in the proper circumstanZes! The problem is that it izn't being used as per the police manuel.
    Some lasy police are not following their training, and those are the ones that have to be corrected in their behaviour.

    TaZZZZZZZZZing is a safe way to handle a hostile client! It is the non-threatening ones, being taZZZZered
    that should result in charges against the officerzs, but we know that won't happen because most circumstances will be covered up, except when someone else gets it on camera, as in Dzienski case. I am think those officers are likely to be charged, but it is pretty difficult to charge an officer, when he/she has been called into a situation where the person has been reported as agitated, and has smashed some furniture.
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    Posted By: thorninyoursideYou want more? I can keep going all night.

    Here's aninteractive mapof so-called "isolated incidents" in which the Po-leese catch the wrong people.


    Jails are full of innocent people.
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2008
     
    Posted By: Freethinker
    Posted By: thorninyoursideYou want more? I can keep going all night.

    Here's aninteractive mapof so-called "isolated incidents" in which the Po-leese catch the wrong people.


    Jails are full of innocent people.


    I just wish our streets werent so full of "found guilty but nothing happened to them" people.
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      CommentAuthorNorthlands
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2008
     
    Posted By: thorninyoursideHow about COPS just leave people alone unless they've actually done something wrong?

    When Randy Dean Sievert saw Manatee County, Florida, sheriff's deputies executing a search warrant in his neighborhood, hepulled out his cell phoneand took a photo. A deputy spotted him and demanded he destroy any photos of the officers and their vehicles. Sievert refused. He also refused to step away from his car when ordered, so deputies threw him to the ground and arrested him for obstruction. They later destroyed a photo he'd taken showing two undercover vehicles.

    Darren Nixon had left work and had just gotten of the bus taking him home when police officers, accompanied by police dogsand pointing guns at him, demanded that he stop. It turns out that a woman had seen his MP3 player and had mistaken it for a gun. That's something the Staffordshire, England, police should have figured out when they searched him after stopping Nixon. Instead, they took him into custody, photographed him, took his fingerprints and a DNA sample, and interrogated him. A spokesman for the department says the officers acted properly. No word on whether Nixon's prints, DNA, and mug shot will remain in their files.


    I'm not sure what the cops could have done in the situation regarding the gun claim. If the guy did have a gun and they treated it with no sense of urgency, things could have went wrong had the guy been a lunatic. Or if the mp3 man actually had a gun, someone made a complaint ( like the lady did ) and he went off to blast someone with it whilst the police decided the lady's claim was a mistake, they'd all be in hot water right now. Maybe they had to take him in because of the possibility that he ditched the weapon before they got to him? I don't know. I'm not familiar with Staffordshire's or England's policies regarding a possible gun wielding person. I've seen it happen here when a person was defending himself against a couple of muggers. Everyone was taken, ( different cars mind you. ) Maybe its just due process?


    Having said all that, I feel for the guy. None of this was his fault and it really does suck that it happened to him. I think all the info they took should be expunged, and secondly, I think that lady should be facing public mischief charges for making such a stupid claim. Who on earth mistakes an MP3 PLAYER for a GUN?
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    Posted By: FreethinkerJails are full of innocent people.


    And everyone the cops suspect of a crime is guilty.
    • CommentAuthorMonominto
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2008
     
    Must have been a truly gormless person to mistake a MP3 player for a firearm.

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