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Winnipeg City Issues & Urban Affairs: Fate of the Starland and Rex Theatres - Jack's and the Bell, too - Main Street

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    Wear a mask or you may never breathe right again.
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      CommentAuthorMR_Point
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2008 edited
     
    what yea think i am stupid of course i was whereing a mask...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/tags/epic/



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    I hope that ornament in the top pic wasn't just thrown away. (Hope you saved it Mr. P).
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      CommentAuthorMR_Point
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008
     
    no someone els has it
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    I'm glad it didn't end up in Brady Road.
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    There's a HUGE Canadian coat of arms above the stage. I hope someone got that. You can see it in the pics earlier in this thread.
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      CommentAuthorMR_Point
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    no one one has grabed it no one can figure out how to get at in in 2 days now less then 24 hours thats the bigest shame loosing that coat of arms above the screen
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008
     
    What, are you suggesting anyone could have walked in there and taken what they liked ????
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Mr. Nobody</cite>What, are you suggesting anyone could have walked in there and taken what they liked ????</blockquote>
    Naw, the demo company has been pulling out what they can and selling it. One guy told me he bought some of the chairs that were left behind. There's not a bad market for stuff like that. I guess if you can make an extra couple or few hundred (likely 'cash only' sales) by what you can strip out of it it's better than nothing. I am glad we got the projector when we were taking some of the chairs and marble slabs for the other theatre.
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      CommentAuthorMR_Point
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    all the demo companies do that though and i was invited in to do my thing in that room i spent most of my time giving a hand though... its cause of me the little bits of the facade were resuced no one knew they were there
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    Is he selling them form the site ? I'd love a piece of the thing. WhenI was in there for the other stuff we just didn't have the tools or anything with us (plus what they needed were the chairs, I was just a tag along). With all the doom and gloom talk about the place falling apart, black mold, destroyed by moisture etc. I figured it would have been a disaster zone - not that 85% of the interior would be fully intact with just a deep layer of dust and a bit poopy (poopie ?) with some absolutely amazing art right there in front of you.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008
     
    Allright then, do let me know the next time demolition starts on a building, I am interested in removing these types of items. My chisels are ready.
    • CommentAuthorSam
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008
     
    I'm having a problem accepting the fact that some of the architectural fragments are not being saved for an exhibit in one of the museums as part of Manitoba history. This was, after all, the first purpose built movie theatre in Winnipeg and one of the earliest in the entire contry. To allow it to be demolished with preserving some record of it is the greater crime.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    Sam you are right, its inconcievable that these building get torn down without someone from the City cataloguing the pieces, heavens tabetsy, where' the university in all of this, aren;'t they training people in this sort of stuff ?
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    You have about 12 hour left for the Rex - get that coat of arms - you won't be sorry !!! <br>
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    <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/2445140756_0c88d786d7.jpg?v=0"><br>
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    It was a big business especially back in the 80's. A certain past city councilor and a mayoral figure were partners that were famous for buying up old buildings in the Exchange, strip them of everything woth more than 50 cents - from light fixtures and doorknobs to staircases, ceilings panels to oak doorframes and sell them off to other markets for things like new "old" pubs and restaurants. <br>
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    In uni I met a guy whose family owned one of the buildings (their grandfather ran the business out of it). They sold it to a group looking to revive it but it either got flipped to these two (or they were silent partners in the purchase - he wasn't too sure). When he heard that THEY had possession of the building, before the family could get back and try to buy the building back so that it wouldn't be stripped these two made off with everything (staircases, doorways, ceilings interior walls elements and event the stained glass roof) and left it in a state that would guarantee that it would be lucky to stand up for another year or two, don't mind be renovated. He did end up getting the building back and decided that they owed it to thier grandfather to right the wrong and did some repairs liek covering the gaping roof and ensuring that anything structural that wa pulled out was jacked up. I see now, 20 years later, that it's back in service.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008
     
    12 hours ?....can i just walk in. How high is it. I'm ready to go.
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    Nope. The city has some pieces like the facade of the Empire and odds and ends in a works yards in Transcona but there isn't any interest at all in saving bits and bobs. If you see the city archives they don't even have temperature control for important docs. They're just sitting on dusty shelves in a crumbling old building. I once read through a copy of the very first, hand written, city council minutes of the city. They were in a bankers box in a file folder like they were some old receipt or pamphlet !! <br>
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    At least they've smartened up a bit and the archives has a bit more space and budget to help with some conservation but because the building is sagging and freezing (they can't store things in bookcases on the second floor anymore due to structural problems !) they're a burst pipe or discarded cigarette butt away from losing absolutely everything made of paper and much of the collected art that the city has dating back to day one. <br>
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    These buildings were owned by the city - even give Heritage Winnipeg some unused warehouse space and let the pieces be collected and decide what to do later. It's like going into the museum or art gallery and just give stuff away because it's really old.
    • CommentAuthorMr. Nobody
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008
     
    I wasn't aware the Rex was coming down already -...what did they do with the facade ? Are you kiding me, based on the pic, that whole front should have been saved.
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Mr. Nobody</cite>12 hours ?....can i just walk in. How high is it. I'm ready to go.</blockquote>
    Chicken wire fence about 10 feet high ! Inside, though, you'll need scaffolding. The thing is about three storeys up (right at ceiling level. I'm not good at estimating sizes but it's gotta be at least 12 feet wide by 6 feet tall - it's as wide as the stage.
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      CommentAuthormrchristian
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2008 edited
     
    Thursday - tomorrow - am is the word from someone involved with the permit at the city. When the demo company changed I sent around another batch of emails about the facade and they've again been told that the demo guys will try to peel back the false wall out front (whether they do that or not is another story). t could be solid gold but he figures people will get a few minutes before it comes down. Very strange indeed. <br>
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    btw Historic Buildings, Heritage Winnipeg and Historic Buildings at the city from the reaction I got are decidedly uninterested about the building. Well, shouldn't say that, Gerbassi was the least interested person I contacted. I guess being on Main Street is decidedly "non sexy" enough to draw interest in at least getting pics of what was. <br>
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    If I hadn't taken those shots, and the opportunity to do so came a day or so before it was reopened, nobody would have seen the interior or known about the false facade (or at least advertised the fact) and I am just some schmo who happened across the opportunity and the information. It's maddeningly sad that the city and / or people who get part of their income due to heritage buildings would not even have the slightest interest in even getting a decent set of photographs of the place before the file is closed on it. A good photog and decent lighting for an hour would have at least captured the interior forever.

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