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    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2008
     
    "In a democracy there are avenues to complain that are simply not there in a Communist or dictatorship! "

    Thats right.. in a true democracy... USA passed the point of being a true Democracy a few years ago and is well on its way to becoming a democratic dictatorship.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    Looks like Fielding is doing something (again) at city hall!

    St. James-Brooklands Coun. Scott Fielding plans to ask the city to set up monitored cameras all over the city to deter crime.

    "There's a lot of evidence that's out there from other jurisdictions [showing] cameras have been very effective," he told CBC News.
    "For instance, Chicago, they've … got over 590 cameras up right now, and they've made over 500 arrests."

    Fielding also wants police to examine whether they could tap into existing private surveillance cameras, and possibly corporate sponsorship of public cameras.

    The Target Corp., for instance, in Minneapolis … gave $250,000 to help fund the program, so I think using some corporate sponsorship for companies that want to contribute to making Winnipeg a more viable place, a safer place, a safer community, makes a lot of sense.

    Fielding plans to make a motion at city council next week asking for action regarding the cameras.

    The city's administration is already examining the concept of monitored cameras, but Fielding wants officials to move faster on the matter.
    Mayor Sam Katz supports his motion, Fielding said.

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2008/01/17/surveillance-cameras.html
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    . << this happens so frequently it cannot be a fluke. What the hell does this "." mean?
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      CommentAuthorzander
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    Means the post was edited.

    Only mods can delete a post, so if people decide they want to "withdraw" what they've said, it's the only way to do it.
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    Thanks...
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    Was it edited by the mod or by the poster?
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      CommentAuthorSputnik
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    yeesh... i posted in the wrong thread... simply removed my post and posted in the correct thread...
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      CommentAuthorzander
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    You can always let one of the mods know if you'd like the post deleted too, we can take care of that for you.
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    Talking about surveillance, I saw in the Wpg small paper today, they printed a picture of a male, who the police would like to talk to, as he might have information on something that may have happened in that coffee shop, such as an indecent act, that was performed by, "maybe" that person, but maybe not!

    What a great way to get pervs off the street.

    Those surveillance cameras are a great , legal way to help the police do their jobs.

    There are all sorts of police cameras, running in police vehicles, that help the officers convict criminals, help convict murderers, get drunks to plead guilty, and even get abusive officers off the street.

    More cameras are needed in public places to aid the law enforcement officer.
    Cameras should be running in all interview rooms, to protect the rights of the individual being interviewed .
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    In the Freep, a lawyer makes some interesting comments:
    Indeed, a typical city-dweller is caught on camera many times a day, thanks to the preponderance of cameras in banks, corporate offices, cabs, malls, parkades and gas stations, said Brian Bowman, a privacy expert with law firm Pitblado LLP.

    "I'm not one to take an absolute view of privacy, because it is not an absolute right," he said.

    But that does not mean the public has nothing to fear from state surveillance, as cameras must be deployed and used in a manner that balances privacy rights with public safety, Bowman added.

    "The devil is in the details," he said, insisting the city and the police must wrestle with questions such as what form of crimes caught on tape will result in arrests.

    "Restricting the use of cameras to serious crimes would give citizens the assurance Big Brother is not watching them all the time.

    "In a free and democratic society, people are entitled to not feel they're under constant surveillance."
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      CommentAuthorjim
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     
    its the old adage you got nothing to fear if you are clean and if you get filmed cheating on your other to bad you were stupid.
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    I guess it depends on what / where the cameras were filming. I have a camera in the lobby of my building and the condo I am moving into has three or four cameras. I like the idea. Don't want a camera pointing at the door of my suite, though.

    If there's a pain-in-the-ass corner like River and Osborne or the one outside Portage Place or the sidewalk / bus stop outside the front of the Bay I don't think I would have a problem with that. They probably already have cameras on them.

    I agree the point is where do you stop.
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    Apparently, in the buildings where you can view the front door from your TV, it is the most watched channel.

    I'm having a hard time understanding people that expect privacy in a public place.
    Thankful People: jim
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Jimmytufish</cite>Apparently, in the buildings where you can view the front door from your TV, it is the most watched channel.</blockquote>

    It beats summer reruns !
    • CommentAuthorDeanK
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2008
     
    yup I have a couplemof friends who actually keep two TVs wone for the door and one for real TV...(or is that the other way around???)
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      CommentAuthorStarblubber
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2008 edited
     
    "Fielding also wants police to examine whether they could tap into existing private surveillance cameras, and possibly corporate sponsorship of public cameras."

    Freedom lovers beware. The tentacles of fascism are here. Big brother loves you.
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    Check out this short film: www.bigbrotherstate.com

    Thankful People: Zwikster
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      CommentAuthorjim
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2008
     
    No offence Starblubber that has been said from time one and there has been no less of yours or anyone's rights, and beside the good of all out weighs you and less crime is good for all. This Idea is a start and if criminals fight dirty why can't we . The only ones who fear are the shady amongst us.
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      CommentAuthorcancelbot
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2008
     
    Moderator
    Posted By: rosencrentzTalking about surveillance, I saw in the Wpg small paper today, they printed a picture of a male, who the police would like to talk to, as he might have information on something that may have happened in that coffee shop, such as an indecent act, that was performed by, "maybe" that person, but maybe not!

    What a great way to get pervs off the street.


    That was a very clear picture of the alleged perpetrator...I'm sure his family and friends will easily recognize it.
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      CommentAuthorStBPegger
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2008
     
    Posted By: DeanKyup I have a couplemof friends who actually keep two TVs wone for the door and one for real TV...(or is that the other way around???)

    The new reality TV program! I bet with the writer's strike someone bites on the idea.

    As the lawyer said in the freep 'the devil is in the details'. Keep it in places that people shouldn't expect privacy - ie. public streets - and things should be just fine.